Mark Gregory Karris is one of those deconstructionists that like to help people put things back together again. We wanted to learn about his recent book, Religious Refugees: (De)constructing Toward Spiritual and Emotional Healing after our church, Emmaus Christian Fellowship, had read his earlier book, Divine Echoes: Reconciling Prayer with the Uncontrolling Love of God., and I thought his latest book would be good for our congregation to learn about.

One of the things we’ve tried to do in the past is to refrain from editing. This time of year, my office is on the back porch so you can hear finches, sparrows, doves as well as cars, and lawnmowers. All the talking, interviews, and conversations are rough-cut. Mainly because we never wanted to take the time to get overly precise and picky. Rather, we try to have great ideas, simply presented. Please be patient with the sound quality and some of the Zoom technical difficulties we were having during the interview.

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As we’re closing out, I want to give a big shout out to At The Speed of Darkness for the music intro and outro. You can follow At The Speed of Darkness, and support his music, at Bandcamp.